The Weather Outside Is Frightful! Die Hard Christmas Mafia Game - Day 4 (Game over - Scum Win)

Also, now that I am re-reading our PMs.. I am not 100% sure that I was Argyle all along. Original PM was just Vanilla Townie with this "investigation" that I'm pretty sure isn't real/has no impact on the game.

As of 11am, I am now Argyle. I don't know if that's a new role or just the name I was supposed to have all along. I may or may not be given a new ability with this new name. That hasn't been made clear yet.
 
I was ready to vote D2DC for not having a name. I was hoping for Noodle to give reasons for his vote before everyone brought it up, but it was too important.

Now that he is Argyle, I don't know. They have no fake claim because we have seen all the flips. With how the role pms went out I find it very weird that he wouldn't have had a name until know. My guess would be he is Theo (the bad guy Argyle hits with the limo) and had to scramble to come up with a name that someone might not have. Limo driver does not sound like an investigative role at all.
I am hoping we have an actual Argyle who is a commuter, just like im hoping we have a bulletproof John McLane, a mason Sgt Al, a reporter thornberg, an innocent child Lucy and so on…. I’m not claiming nor do I have any actual knowledge of those roles obviously…

And I’m still waiting to deploy my swat car once we kill off some missile weaving thugs..

My vote for D2DC stands, and if @Noodle has vouched for him, I’m going to believe him (and hopefully not have to lynch him the next day) and not ask him to role claim as I understand historically he doesn’t and I imagine he would have if it wouldn’t weaken our position.
 
I don't like how Noodle jumped on BH lynch. I don't like how Noodle started off today. And I especially don't like how Huckit is now deferring to Noodle on what to do?

Am I the only one whose instructions in the original email included the name as a thing? I don't understand the mod using the name as a thing to one person and just "forgetting" with another.
 
Work is done for the day! Ready to rock.

Everyone, just stop voting me until I get a chance to talk to Pyro. He will see the truth! ;)

Dude, what the heck, I just read through the posts and I thought you were good at this game. You must have lost all your skills while I was gone.
 
So, you all caught up @Pyrotechnician?
Question #1: Was anybody really pressing me with questions, or did I just provide a lot of details on my own?
Question #2: Does my story sound reasonable, or kinda crazy?

I'm working on it, I've read it, but in the process of summarizing and analyzing. From first read, your story is inconsistent, but I've never known you to make major slips before so I'm torn.
 
Question #3: Put yourself in my shoes. (You have a VT role PM with NO NAME). A player(s) come along and say they don't understand how you cannot have a role name. What conclusions are you going to make about those players?
 
From first read, your story is inconsistent, but I've never known you to make major slips before so I'm torn.
Tell me what looks inconsistent. Or better yet, read it through again. Because the only change in my story came after the 11am name assignment.
 
In any event, Vote: D2DC

Noodle right out the gate with the votes, between this and your vote yesterday for Babyhell you are way outside of your normal play style. Did you hit your head on a rug?

Anyway, I was going through the posts in my usual style, trying to quote and point out things, but then noticed I was quoting pretty much everything in the thread since the day started, thats not helpful. I'm not going to vote right away, going by my count D2DC is already at 4? which is one away from lynch, two from lock. More than half a day phase left so I'm good holding on to my vote for now.

Lets do a summary instead:
- D2DC claims at the end of the day phase yesterday that he is a nameless vanilla townie, I found this to be an odd claim at the time but with the end of day approaching and the lynch pretty much already decided figured it was best to leave it be. Apparently it didn't go unnoticed by others.
- Others point out D2DC's claim (Noodle - PS I'm shocked, d2lover, huckit)
- D2DC continues to claim nameless vanilla townie (that apparently searches for pie), claims that every townie that was vanilla didn't have a name. This is an odd claim to be confident in, how do you know what the other role PMs look like, strange confidence in something like this.
- D2DC claims he self investigated and got pie, investigated coju and got pac man? From knowledge of previous games it sounds kind of like a weird flavor cop. I had something like this in one of the games I modded, but who knows if this really holds true here or if the claim is true for that matter.
- D2DC claims that role pm did not contain a name. I know that discussing role pms is teetering on breaking the rules so we will try to avoid this, but I can say I had to confirm my name/role before game start so its odd that you had no name, that part doesn't make sense
- D2DC updates us and indicates his name is Argyle (unfortunate mod error or scramble to come up with an name?)
- Leo is stuck on twinkies, but also speculates on what power roles there may be (cough scum tell cough)
coju points out that Argyle is the limo driver.
- Huckit points out that I am usually all for a D2DC lynch, which honestly, yes I am, there is nothing like a good D2DC lynch :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:. This is in no way important, I just found it funny.
- Franklin is unsure of what to do (why so serious Franklin?), speculates D2DC is Theo a bad dude. Franklin points out Noodle's boldness and Huckit following in step with him being odd. Which in both accounts, is in fact, odd.

And here we are!
 
This is an odd claim to be confident in, how do you know what the other role PMs look like, strange confidence in something like this.
I was pretty confident in assuming that all VT role PMs would be identical. And, since my VT role didn't include a name, I had to assume that none would. Therefore, the two flips with names must have been added to the story by Gorny.
I can say I had to confirm my name/role before game start so its odd that you had no name, that part doesn't make sense
This would have probably caught the oversight had I confirmed my name/role before the game started. However, I was a bit of a late arrival and the game had already started before I even read my role PM. So, I just jumped right into the game thread.
 
Question #1: Was anybody really pressing me with questions, or did I just provide a lot of details on my own?

If we go back to end of last day phase, I would say there was no pressing, you just came forward with this out of the blue claim of nameless vanilla townie looking for pie. At first glance I took this as trying to get ahead of role claim time, and with all the flips being revealed and two of them being Agent Johnson #1 and #2 scum would need to come up with something to use. Claiming early usually grants credibility due to risk of being caught, but the claim was just...odd.

Going into today though the pressure came on heavy, so you had to disclose as much as you could to keep yourself out of the fire. I can't really give you a lot of points for that.

Question #2: Does my story sound reasonable, or kinda crazy?

Both? Could the mod have made an error, yes, its always possible, it happens. Kinda crazy, definately yes. You were "searching for pie" all day yesterday, so that part was certain, but the first part of this day phase was a mess.

Question #3: Put yourself in my shoes. (You have a VT role PM with NO NAME). A player(s) come along and say they don't understand how you cannot have a role name. What conclusions are you going to make about those players?

Conclusions:
If I'm you:
- Why didn't I verify that my role did or did not have a name early in the game. Themed games almost always have names associated with them.
- I would not be confident that everyone else does not have a name (like honestly, there at least has to be THE John McClane). Even though the flips were Agent Johnson 1 and 2, thats still technically a name.
 
I don't like how Noodle jumped on BH lynch. I don't like how Noodle started off today. And I especially don't like how Huckit is now deferring to Noodle on what to do?

Am I the only one whose instructions in the original email included the name as a thing? I don't understand the mod using the name as a thing to one person and just "forgetting" with another.
I mean, it could happen. Forgetting a name. The name doesn’t fit the roll. Finding “pie” then “pac-man” on me sounds like an Insane Investigator, if there even is such a thing. I don’t remember any arcade games in the movie and didn’t find anything further in the wiki.
Noodle’s behavior is something I defer to the rest of you on, as the complete lurk falls under LAL for me. Not to defend Leo but she did say she was under the weather today.

@Pyrotechnician that is the rundown Jim needed to give (the office)

I’m shocked still that noodle comes out the gate asking if the nk was suicidal then voted d2dc. Has he joined the crusade?
 
Going into today though the pressure came on heavy, so you had to disclose as much as you could to keep yourself out of the fire. I can't really give you a lot of points for that.
To be honest, I didn't really feel much pressure. Like you said, I had already claimed VT/no name. Right out of the gate, I thought I was on to something. My first post was to vote d2lover, because I thought I had caught HIM in a slip up!
 
Both? Could the mod have made an error, yes, its always possible, it happens. Kinda crazy, definately yes. You were "searching for pie" all day yesterday, so that part was certain, but the first part of this day phase was a mess.
Lets rephrase the question. Does my story seem like a "good" story? (one that others would find easy to believe)
 
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