The Jason Bourne Mafia Game

I don’t know why we aren’t all in on cg either. But kestegs is flopping like a fish almost trying to get lynched.
 
Reminder the end of day is about an hour and a half away. I might not be online when it hits. I'll come take care of things as soon as I'm able to afterwards.
 
I've got some posting to do, but I am going to try splitting it up for ease of reference.


Drixx and Zarniwoop

I do know what I did. I lie detected Zarniwoop's very clear statement of alignment. It came back as truth.

So Kestegs ... you are softing something unlikely.

Vote: Kestegs
I'm sold that Drixx is town... I don't see him setting up that whole bit which makes him a target for intese townie scrutiny as scum. I'm not liking that he outed himself as a townie PR, and a damned useful one, just to clear a townie who was in no real danger of being lynched & secure the lynch on someone who already had a case built against them, which it didn't actually do.
I do get why, just don't think time was ripe, yet.


What tickles at me about all this is that I can see Zarni getting Godfather PR, then being grumpy and surly D1 to draw an investigation, which he can then use to establish his 'alignment'.
Oh wow, it just got interesting in here.
He IMMEDIATELY jumps all over this, making sure everyone is paying attention to Drixx's claim. Like, it's the literal LAMIST scenario...
What I find most interesting is that everyone that has posted since Drixx's HUGE reveal (except me) has completely ignored (or tried to avoid) his ability claim and result.

They have also ignored my follow up and suggestion. Its a pretty ugly look.

CG you are way onto my watch list now.
More LAMIST, with the opinion that anyone who doubts must be scum. That's the ugly look right there. Townies doubt everything, it comes from having little to no solid info themselves...


So yeah... that's my take on that. And truly told I'm not sold that it is actually like that at all. It is, however, a point of view I felt should be considered.
 
Caluin Graye & Mr_Thingyman

I'll start at the end:
People that aren't voting CG - why?

Because there is a much better lynch target that a PR has outed himself to secure a lynch on. Why are you so set on CG being scum now that he is actually contributing?

If someone thinks they were responsible should step forward and claim. Mafia team already knows who the target was, so withholding that information from the town serves no purpose.

This is highly townie post to my thinking. No way scum encourages sharing info that they already are soley privy to.

Looks like a couple parts of my two above posts got lost in formatting, probably because I'm bouncing back and forth between pages and the draft saves of my replies weren't keeping up. Think the gist is kept well enough; let me know if something doesn't make sense and I'll try to clarify.

To me, Prestige's actions on Day One and Day Two look like standard mafia behaviour. Tentative to post, but quick to respond when a safe topic is presented or someone interacts with him directly. Typical "don't want to make waves" type of behaviour. Feels safer approaching conversation with his scum buddies (more on the plurality in a second), doesn't interact with those not on his team (I.E., town) unless they approach him first.

Then there is this post:


Scenario one: Both scum.
Scenario two: Zarni scum, Drixx town.
Scenario three: Zarni town, Drixx scum.

Where is scenario four, where both are town? This screams to me like mafia member trying to set up a lynch train on two people he knows will both flip town.

His move of day one vote helps prevent the lynching of his partner, but still allows him to keep a vote on a mafia partner should he later be flipped and revealed scum. His day two vote stays on Zarniwoop the entire day, even though he fingers kestegs and prestige as his two highest scum reads. These are the actions of someone who, when his partners flip, can reach back and say "Hey, I thought he was scum this entire time!", but doesn't want to actively help in their demise.

I'm of the opinion that D2DC and kestegs are partners amd Prestige was on their team.

Vote: DiabloTwoinDC

I could also be persuaded to move my vote to kestegs.

I also happen to agree with this read on D2DC, which may just be confirmation bias on my part, but it's what I have to work with here...

One of the central rules of Mafia is "Lynch all liars". Don't care what you lied about, don't care what reasons you had behind it - if you're town, you don't lie, because of rule #1 around here - 'Lynch all liars'.

Drixx has spent time away from this site playing elsewhere, and I was curious if his habits may have changed to forget about it. I was curious if anyone else might have thought Drixx was lying about Truth Detector in order to get a rise out of people. As the "new person" to the group I thought you'd have a genuinely new take that just firm belief in the claim. Seems I was wrong.

No, I'm saying Drixx's claim is crap because he is testing us. I'm not sure yet it's because he's scum trying to swing the town using knowledge he already has, or if he's town trying to pass off a play.

This is the biggest strike I can see against CG... throwing doubt on a PR that outed themselves should always be looked on negatively, at least until such time as the claim makes less sense. By that same token, someone needs to press all claims, so that isn't totally indicative either.


Thingy gets no quotes because the only thing of real substance he has posted is his doubt on CG, and wanting a train on him apparently. Without any real reason aside from CG not liking Drixx's claim... that's a pretty flimsy reasoning with a couple hours left to day and another potential lynch already sitting at lynch-1.
 
I'm fine with either. D2DC and Leo are my next rung.

I am as innocent as a newborn baby.

I'm not saying lynching me is the worst idea, it may or may not be helpful.

Excuse me? What in the hell does that mean??



Don't read too much into this, but...
Unvote: Drixx
Vote:Zarni

I was having a hard-ish time reading Kegs, something wasn't right but now he's on the top of my list. The fact that he has basically said "Don't lynch me or something may or may not happen" doesn't sit well with me; it almost feels like a threat of "You'll be sorry!" /wags finger and winks

I'm sold that Drixx is town... I don't see him setting up that whole bit which makes him a target for intese townie scrutiny as scum. I'm not liking that he outed himself as a townie PR, and a damned useful one, just to clear a townie who was in no real danger of being lynched & secure the lynch on someone who already had a case built against them, which it didn't actually do.
I do get why, just don't think time was ripe, yet.

And, see, here's where I disagree. Actually, I am NOT sold that Drixx is town because of what you said. He outed himself so early when he wasn't being in danger, he was harping on Zarni and pushing him a little bit more than the rest of us because.....??? I think he took a huge gamble to make himself look PT when he's really not, latched on to Zarni for whatever reason and has been pushing a Zarni lynch because it's on his agenda. I don't know why though. Is it possible for a mafia to have investigative abilities and find out what our roles are? :scared:


More LAMIST, with the opinion that anyone who doubts must be scum. That's the ugly look right there. Townies doubt everything, it comes from having little to no solid info themselves...

I'm sorry, but what's LAMIST? :oops:

Right now, my top two ppl are Drixx and Kegs. I would vote for Drixx but Kegs has more of the votes and that would be more useful.

Vote: Kestegs
 
DiabloTwoinDC and kestegs

Are scum. I'd lay money on it. As such, I'm not even going to waste time quoting. I'm not sure how kegs isn't already locked with the way the last two days have gone. D2DC has vacillated so much this game, I'm not sure how anyone can NOT have a scum read.



Leopold Stotch

Is null read... low activity and no real digging to be seen yet, but for all that hasn't really pinged my radar. I'm watching.
 
So, without a recent official count, it looks like Kestegs is sitting at 4, which is a lynch. I'm not sure why we're doing him and not CG, who is screamingly mafia.

Frustrating activity level.
 
The day has ended Nd it is now night. There has been no lynch (no majority reached half of 8 alive plus 1 rounded up)

If you have night actions, submit them. I'll add the counter and any relevant info soon.

Vote counts:


Kestegs: 4 Drixx, Zemaj, D2DC, Leopold Stotch
D2DC: 1 CG
Caluin Graye 2: Mr Thingyman, Kestegs
 
A discrepancy in the rules has been brought to my attention concerning rule 7:
7) The required number of votes to seal a lynch for the day is equal to one half the remaining number of people alive (rounded up) plus 1. Once someone reaches this number of votes, they will be lynched no matter what; however, the day will still continue to its scheduled conclusion. Half rounded up equals a lynch, but no lock, so the lynchee has until the days end to persuade the town otherwise.


It's my fault with that rule as I cut and pasted from an earlier game then edited when I should have just written the rule from scratch.
Concerning today's lynch, I'm inclined to let the no lynch stand based on the first half of the rule.

I need everyone alive to let me know via PM if you want to play on or if you want me to call the game with no faction winning (dtaw).

If the game goes on then it will go forward as:

1. The lynch on kestegs stands as a no lynch occurring.

2. Going further vote counts will require a majority to cause a lynch (half of the living players rounded up plus 1.

The night will last until I have heard from everyone alive at this point.
 
The game continues.

Working through night actions, anyone who hasn't submitted a night action has just under two hours left.


Going forward majority vote is needed for a lynch.


Half the players alive voting on one person will not cause a lynch.
 
Night 3 has ended and Day 4 dawns full of death. Kestegs was found slumped over her table in the back of a corner diner, she was Anne Held, Town Mafia Symphathizer and lover. She was shot in the neck.

Drixx was found shot to death in a rental car in a parking garage. He was Martin Lindros, Town Lie detector.

Still alive:

D2DC
Leopold Stotch
Zarniwoop
Zemaj
Mr_Thingyman
Caluin Graye

6 alive. 4 votes secures a lynch.

End of Day 4

It is now Day 4 if you're alive, you may post freely.


 
Typically, Mafia-Sympathizer is town that is recruitable by scum.

Lover, is a weird PR that basically ties two people together, so if one dies, the other does as well... what's really odd about that is that Drixx didn't have Lover listed as PR... I'm not sure what that means.
 
Lover, is a weird PR that basically ties two people together, so if one dies, the other does as well... what's really odd about that is that Drixx didn't have Lover listed as PR... I'm not sure what that means.

The Lover usually dies at the end of the next day phase. Think Juliet taking poison and still having enough time to give a sappy monologue. This probably means we have two killing roles (of which we can assume at least one is mafia) and someone will die later today.
 
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