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INVADER ZIM and the St. Valentine's Day Massacre! Post Game Thread TOWNIE WIN!!

Snicker, I know you were trying to be helpful with your claim late yesterday, but a motion detector is basically like a watered down version of watcher or tracker. You can't tell if someone targeted someone or if they were targeted, and you also don't get any information in regards to who they targeted if they did target someone.

I'm surprised at the number of players that just jumped on that as definitive evidence that I was scum as opposed to possible power role.
 
Pyrotechnician said:
Snicker, I know you were trying to be helpful with your claim late yesterday, but a motion detector is basically like a watered down version of watcher or tracker. You can't tell if someone targeted someone or if they were targeted, and you also don't get any information in regards to who they targeted if they did target someone.

I'm surprised at the number of players that just jumped on that as definitive evidence that I was scum as opposed to possible power role.
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I know what the role/power is, and it seems like you're trying to paint me as though I don't instead of responding to what I said in the last hour or so of D2. Can you respond to what I did say?
 
@Pyrotechnician
Much of page 19 is relevant, but here's my very brief summary:
snickersnack said:
Dib is not a man, he is boy.


For those that think @Pancakes is the most lore-wise, you must now be at least suspicious of @Pancakes, but this is a misdirection.

I don't think that @Pancakes really thinks that @D2DC RCed Dib, he said that as a distraction to take attention away from @Pyrotechnician, then Pyro swooped into point out the error and distance himself from pancakes.

Here's what I think: Pyro is Tak, pancakes is scum (maybe Gir).
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I was taking a chance, sure. But, I was pretty sure that I would die N2, so I took that chance.

At this point, though, my attention is more on pancakes. Either I'm wrong about you, or pancakes' ruse worked.

I look forward to @Pancakes' roleclaim.
 
Pyrotechnician said:
P.S. I'm increasingly suspicious of Babyhell. Between his "I know I'm town" post yesterday and this post from today:



Previous day phase ended, I can understand the lynch for information when we are in a rush for a lynch, but you seem way overeager to just go with the prior target and let the town do the rest based on "lynching for information." Especially since the day just started.
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You can find it suspicious if you want... but in fact I saw (and we had) Snickersnack's input really late yesterday, so late that I couldn't change my vote, as I would based upon what I wrote.

So no: this vote is logical. It should have been my previous day final vote if the time would have been enough to do so.

About the "I know I'm town" : very sus, great read. I am a big red piggy eating marshmallows aaaalll day long. OR.... it's the only thing anyone can tell about him/herself in a normal game, and therefore doesn't give any information.

Trying to find things where there's nothing to find is not worth a penny as a defense. The only thing that could have been seen as sus was my day 1 non vote while I was on for a lynch during day discussion. I explained why, so either you buy it or not, but that's my "most" (and only?) suspicious action as of now.
 
Pancakes said:
I will not roleclaim, but I will say I am on my list. I will roleclaim if I make it through the night.
If the detail of "a man" being on the table is significant, that narrows it to Professor Membrane.
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This is gonna be exciting
 
And what is your list @Pancakes ?
You have mentioned it a few times and nobody else is saying anything, so clearly I missed a post somewhere.
 
Here it is.
Pancakes said:
So I thought about it for a while on the truck today and came up with a list of characters that might be notable enough to be in the game. This doesn't really mean much, since butters could pick just about anyone she wants, but if we're going with the bigguns:
The Tallest
Zim
Dib
Gaz
Professor Membrane
GIR
Ms Bitters
Parents

Unless I'm overlooking someone, those are the main recurring, named characters.
Off the top of my head, some other named characters that play a role in at least one or two episodes:
Tak
Keef
Chickenfoot
Bloaty
HUNTER-DESTROYER
And, most importantly, Invader Skoodge.

I may have missed a couple, but that's what I got until I have time to peruse the wiki more. Thirteen names. With there being so few of us, and given that butters seems to want this to be pretty connected to the material, I think it's very likely that most of these names, at least the main ones, are in use. Regarding the theory of The Tallest being a faction, I think butters has answered this. Check out her avatar.
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snickersnack said:
That is my understanding, yes. Since I did detect motion, then either he targeted someone or someone else targeted him.

Like I said, I wasn't sure at that time. In post 347, I asked you what you thought about pyro. You posted a little later, but didn't answer. I assumed that you were probably catching up on reading missed posts.
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Is your scill active or passive?
 
snickersnack said:
@Pyrotechnician
Much of page 19 is relevant, but here's my very brief summary:

I was taking a chance, sure. But, I was pretty sure that I would die N2, so I took that chance.

At this point, though, my attention is more on pancakes. Either I'm wrong about you, or pancakes' ruse worked.

I look forward to @Pancakes' roleclaim.
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I once again refer to the question that if I am Tak, why would I care about distancing myself from pancakes? Your assumption is working on the fact that we are somehow related which would mean we would have to be on the same mafia team. So therefore I am on the same mafia team as pancakes and gorny, and am also Tak. Correct me if I'm wrong but it can't be both.
 
d2lover said:
@Pyrotechnician share your name? (now you admitted you have an ability, what does it matter?)
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I also received confirmation from Leo regarding my passive. So I don't see why not.

Leo indicated that my passive activated on night 2, which is not what I expected in regards to snicker's findings, but sheds some light on last nights activity (or lack there of).

I'm President Man. I have a one shot bulletproof which seems to have been activated. Either someone doesn't like me, or something else happened last night that got the kill redirected to me.

(apparently President Man is incompetent in the show, but he is supposed to be representative of George W. Bush, so that makes sense to me, hahahaha).
 
Pyrotechnician said:
I once again refer to the question that if I am Tak, why would I care about distancing myself from pancakes? Your assumption is working on the fact that we are somehow related which would mean we would have to be on the same mafia team. So therefore I am on the same mafia team as pancakes and gorny, and am also Tak. Correct me if I'm wrong but it can't be both.
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This is lore based. When Tak killed Zim, Gir (being a junk bot from the Irken Empire) might get a new wincon: he's still supposed to help defeat Earth, but now Tak is in charge of the campaign. When you asked "And since I have all of 2 minutes to make an arguement against it, if I am Tak, why would I need to distance myself from pancake if he is mafia? Wouldn't I not care one way or another about him?" in post 398, I thought it pretty silly, since in my head, Gir would likely be aligned with Tak.
 
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