Forum Mafia Game: Matrix 6 #1 (Game Over - Mafia Win)

Oh, I thought I was explaining to coju.

@thefranklin are you BP townie? Yes or No?

Not sure you should answer yet, Franklin.

To anyone: does bulletproof also protect against lynches?

I'm also down for coju lynch... Not because it's coju but because he's replacing Logout and if Logout was Mafia.... But I would imagine he'd be more interactive. Idk...
 
Why are you confident it's Coju/Logout as BPT?
I'm not 100% sure. But, I will go back later tonight and quote where I got some geebies from Franklin/Babyhell. I would have been much happier with a Logo vote yesterday, cuz that would have left Skjolde (best "town read" of unknowns) and D2/Franklin ("most scum leaning"). Logo/coju was and is just a blank, but it's the only remaining role out there. I like what little I saw already from coju as well.
 
I'm not 100% sure. But, I will go back later tonight and quote where I got some geebies from Franklin/Babyhell. I would have been much happier with a Logo vote yesterday, cuz that would have left Skjolde (best "town read" of unknowns) and D2/Franklin ("most scum leaning"). Logo/coju was and is just a blank, but it's the only remaining role out there. I like what little I saw already from coju as well.
So all of this talking you have been doing and the best you could do is lynch the guy that isnt here? Are you and Leo just putting on some scum show here?
 
What's been shown that there is a mafia roll blocker and a bulletproof (column A)
instead of being Row 1 Jail Keeper then VT / goons?
 
Unless it's known there is a roll blocker... if so i don't remember seeing that in the thread
 
Leo and I are VT. That leaves 1 more townie, the BP. I'm somewhat confident it's @coju (please don't confirm). I DARE Babyhell or Franklin to claim BP first!
Why are you daring just us to claim? How are you confident that coju is it so quickly when you wanted to lynch him yesterday?
 
What's been shown that there is a mafia roll blocker and a bulletproof (column A)
instead of being Row 1 Jail Keeper then VT / goons?
Unless d2lover lied about his target the first night, he probably would have been able to protect himself last night. Oh, he targeted Leo. But still could have been roll blocked, but there was no flavor for it if he was.
 
Leo and I are VT. That leaves 1 more townie, the BP. I'm somewhat confident it's @coju (please don't confirm). I DARE Babyhell or Franklin to claim BP first!
The way you just put it out there that Leo is a VT like it is a fact is scum scum scum.
 
**** ! DC, you got me. But I don't want you to weasel your way out of this one.

@Skjolde , I want you to know that i am 100% against this vote but if you turn up town, I'm 1000% going after D2DC tomorrow and ain't no one stopping me.

Unvote: d2lover
Vote: Skjolde
So, this leads me to think Leo is a scum. I was half convinced to go after whomever she went after since the reasoning seemed sound, but obviously it isn’t.

My thinking is that Leo knows whose who (town vs mafia) and is okay being in League with and trying to build Repertoire with a townie (d2dc). To where if “they” convince us “they” are town then “they’ll” make it to the end with a scum win as Leo’s convinced us she’s town.

I’m not buying it right now.
 
@coju this is the post that convinces me Leo is in fact VT.

First pass, I'm just like.. okay obviously she misunderstood the matrix setup possibilities. But, when I start to imagine myself making a post like hers, as if she were mafia, it just doesn't make sense.

** Ok, so let's pretend we are Leo, and plan is our plan is to intentionally/"accidentally" mis-read the matrix and/or claim VT.

Firstly, if the plan is to put herself into some kind of showdown/counter-claim with the real town player she is claiming to be, why on Earth would she pick VT? Surely, if you want to fake claim a town role, and get into an argument with the actual town player you're claiming to be, you would want to do it as a PR, such as the Jailkeeper. That way, even if you lose the face off and get voted out, you've at least outed the town's PR. You're not going to get into a fake tussle to out a VT..

Secondly, look at what she said, "you done ****ed up" etc. Immediately following my VT claim. If you're a mafia player planning on fake claiming a role, you aren't going to knee-jerk jump down someone's throat that has already claimed the role you're planning on fake claiming. Especially when it's just a measly VANILLA TOWNIE! You're gonna say to yourself: is it worth getting into a counter-claim situation with this player, or can I just come up with an alternate (fake) story to push. Well, this was super early in the game. It's not like she had been going on and on about being VT. IIRC this post was the first time she mentioned it. There is NO WAY she would be trying to start an argument with me as a scum player that I had somehow "robbed" their storyline. She didn't even have a storyline yet!
 
Why are you daring just us to claim? How are you confident that coju is it so quickly when you wanted to lynch him yesterday?
I'm daring you to claim because I know you won't. The more you talk, the more I am convinced you're a baddie. So, I'd be very pleased if you or Babyhell tried to claim, so we all could see how coju (the real BP) reacts.
 
With five votes total, Skjolde is locked and lynched, he was vanilla town.

It is now night, anyone that has business with me, get to it.

The night will run until 8PM CST on October 28th 2021 - Timer to follow shortly.

To add, I have received a PM from Logoutzero, I may need to replace him. I will update ASAP.
@thefranklin - I don't recall anybody trying to lynch coju yesterday. Especially since he wasn't even in the game yesterday.

Logo was my preferred vote at that time. But, it was nice of you and Babyhell to box us in to voting Skjolde. It makes my decision much easier today.
 
Unless it's known there is a roll blocker... if so i don't remember seeing that in the thread
It isn't known for certain, but d2lover (who has been confirmed as JK) said that according to his Role PM, his targets WILL be notified when they are jailed. d2lover claimed to have jailed Leo the night prior (there is no reason he would lie about this), and Leo has said that she did NOT receive any notice of being jailed.

There are only two one realistic possibility that can reconcile the above:
a. Leo is scum, and is just lying about getting any message (although, she wasn't pushing for a d2lover lynch yesterday)
b. There is a RB out there, and they RB the JK (after he had already claimed) because they would have known his jailing could prevent their NK.
 
Unless d2lover lied about his target the first night, he probably would have been able to protect himself last night. Oh, he targeted Leo. But still could have been roll blocked, but there was no flavor for it if he was.
@thefranklin - I remember you being a much more analytical player than this. I find it unlikely that (as town) you would have not considered the implications of d2lover's follow up claims yesterday. In that, he voluntarily came forward with his role information that his targets would ALWAYS be informed of being jailed. And he did so AFTER Leo had already stated that she was not notified. *see above post
 
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