The Weather Outside Is Frightful! Die Hard Christmas Mafia Game - Day 4 (Game over - Scum Win)

Apparently that is just me.. I dunno what you guys need? A notarized copy of my town credentials?
Yes, signed by Gorny in blood and Noodle in starch.

Franklin had a strong town read, I guess that’s what did him in,,, but why didn’t mafia pick one of the two investigative roles? Unless they’re lying, or one is actually paranoid and one is truly gornified and the mafia believes that?

I truly believe this is a ‘not normal’ game, but I’m struggling to understand how we’re on day 4 with two people claiming investigators but also that their data is useless? It seems like an overly complicated strategy to not get lynched (and I did vote to lynch D2DC) but I suppose, once again, this game is not normal.

I’m guessing my longevity in the game is that as long as mafia feels like I’m getting enough of a scum read it’s not to their benefit to kill me, so obviously I need to do a better job of supporting town/getting an accurate lynch.

I’ll be more back online tomorrow and try to reread and come up with a better assessment as I think we’re now really running out of time.
 
Pyro/Huckit or Pyro/d2lover are our scum. I'm calling it.
besides your historical antagonism with @Pyrotechnician , what do you actually see for this?

As per me and D2lover, this feels like an attempt to get the focus off Noodle and @Leopold Stotch s lynch attempt on you, but besides the fact that we voted for you, what do you have?


@Noodle and @leo, if D2DC is currently unlynchable, are you going to try to burn the witch you just drowned, or can we look for the second mafia for a day?
 
besides your historical antagonism with @Pyrotechnician , what do you actually see for this?
Him, you, Noodle and d2lover have gotten basically a free pass up until this point with most of the attention on BH and myself.

Pyro especially stands out to me. As he is normally a big town contributor (even as scum). It may just be the busy RL of the holidays. But, he hasn't really been pushing to help solve things.

Even as scum, he is pretty good at hiding in plain sight, and making himself appear a helpful townie. This feels like he hasn't even brought his A game. He's just able to coast by because he knows all the pressure is elsewhere.
 
Franklin had a strong town read, I guess that’s what did him in,,, but why didn’t mafia pick one of the two investigative roles? Unless they’re lying, or one is actually paranoid and one is truly gornified and the mafia believes that?
Yep. If you're a solid townie, you're ripe for an NK.

Unless I missed someone, I guess I am the other investigative role? Again, pretty sure my investigation does nothing, I'm just going through and relaying what I can in case Gorny is hiding some Easter egg bits of info there.

The fact that Leo wasn't targeted tells me, mafia are afraid of a doc out there. She mentioned a doc targeting her alters her results. So, either she's lying about the whole thing or mafia know that's what happened (because Argyle isn't a terrorist..). If there's a doc out there, and an outed cop, it's safe to assume the doc will protect her at night, making her a dangerous choice for an NK.

Also, it doesn't hurt the matter that Leo is ready to lynch me. At this point, mafia need some miss votes. So, they are happy to keep her around and voting for me.
 
Unless I missed someone, I guess I am the other investigative role?
I was going to ask the same
Also, it doesn't hurt the matter that Leo is ready to lynch me. At this point, mafia need some miss votes. So, they are happy to keep her around and voting for me.
Do you think that’s why? Or a bus driver? I fully expected the bus driver PR to be your character name.

I hear you about pyro, but I’m more curious on the other D2. His voting today and low movement in past days… mafia PR?

Vote: d2lover
 
Do you think that’s why? Or a bus driver?
Yea, I would assume if there was a bus driver it would be me. However, nothing like that was mentioned to me. It does make me wonder if my "investigation" has some hidden mechanic though..

Again,
N1 - D2DC (pie)
N2 - coju (Pac-Man music)
N3 - Pyro (cookie, pizza etc)

@Leopold Stotch does any of that make sense combined with your results getting altered? Also, did you test the doc mechanic last night? I gotta assume any doc would have protected you, which means altered results, right?
 
Yes, signed by Gorny in blood and Noodle in starch.

Franklin had a strong town read, I guess that’s what did him in,,, but why didn’t mafia pick one of the two investigative roles? Unless they’re lying, or one is actually paranoid and one is truly gornified and the mafia believes that?

I truly believe this is a ‘not normal’ game, but I’m struggling to understand how we’re on day 4 with two people claiming investigators but also that their data is useless? It seems like an overly complicated strategy to not get lynched (and I did vote to lynch D2DC) but I suppose, once again, this game is not normal.

I’m guessing my longevity in the game is that as long as mafia feels like I’m getting enough of a scum read it’s not to their benefit to kill me, so obviously I need to do a better job of supporting town/getting an accurate lynch.

I’ll be more back online tomorrow and try to reread and come up with a better assessment as I think we’re now really running out of time.
Yep. If you're a solid townie, you're ripe for an NK.

Unless I missed someone, I guess I am the other investigative role? Again, pretty sure my investigation does nothing, I'm just going through and relaying what I can in case Gorny is hiding some Easter egg bits of info there.

The fact that Leo wasn't targeted tells me, mafia are afraid of a doc out there. She mentioned a doc targeting her alters her results. So, either she's lying about the whole thing or mafia know that's what happened (because Argyle isn't a terrorist..). If there's a doc out there, and an outed cop, it's safe to assume the doc will protect her at night, making her a dangerous choice for an NK.

Also, it doesn't hurt the matter that Leo is ready to lynch me. At this point, mafia need some miss votes. So, they are happy to keep her around and voting for me.

This is basically it, If I had to take a guess, franklin was the best choice for them. The long story short is that franklin didn't seem to at anytime have any pressure on him, and was a fairly constant contributor.

The long story long is Leo seems to have "proven" herself to be an investigative role, although her results have been under question. If there is a doc and Leo is town, they would have not wanted to risk a failed kill at this point in the game as she would have been the most obvious protect target. Here is my breakdown:

- Leo has been full focus on D2DC, if both parties are town this provides full distraction with minimal effort.
- D2DC has been heavily focused on me.
- D2DC was only supported by franklin. Although franklin did cast the locking vote on D2DC, but I chalk this more up to him wanting to ensure the lynch happened.
- Coju had heavy fire in the beginning of the game, but afterwards a few people have come out with a town read on him (although personally half the time I don't understand what he is getting at).
- Huckit seems he is somewhere in the background, he always seems to pop up at opportune times. I'm not sure if this is just convenience, skillful playing, or what.
- D2lover while Huckit seems to be somewhere in the background, I'm not sure if this guy is even playing. He seems to be happy voting for D2DC, me, or anyone else for that matter.
- Noodle is....well...Noodle. He did vote very early for D2DC yesterday though with what seemed like pretty high confidence. This is very much outside of the norm for standard Noodle play.

Having not heard a word from Leo or Noodle since way early this day phase is concerning, but with Christmas and all that, I think everyone gets a pass, its just bad timing for participating in the game it seems.

Him, you, Noodle and d2lover have gotten basically a free pass up until this point with most of the attention on BH and myself.

Pyro especially stands out to me. As he is normally a big town contributor (even as scum). It may just be the busy RL of the holidays. But, he hasn't really been pushing to help solve things.

Even as scum, he is pretty good at hiding in plain sight, and making himself appear a helpful townie. This feels like he hasn't even brought his A game. He's just able to coast by because he knows all the pressure is elsewhere.

Honestly, I'm not going to argue you on this one, I have not been on my A game at all, and if that's enough to warrant your focus than by all means, put the pressure on. Although this statement is kind of hilarious in itself in that I'm the best town when I'm town, and best town when I'm scum, but right now I'm not being the best town so therefore I'm....scum? Town? I'm not sure.
 
Hello, everyone! Happy Holidays! I would kiss each one of y'all but I'm still hacking and icky. So here's a wave. 👋


Franklin had a strong town read, I guess that’s what did him in,,, but why didn’t mafia pick one of the two investigative roles? Unless they’re lying, or one is actually paranoid and one is truly gornified and the mafia believes that?

Seriously, Frankie had THE MOST scummiest read for me yesterday next to DC. The fact that he turned up town surprises me.

He comes up Reporter. According to Mafia Wiki , the Reporter is like a Tracker (but it depends on which Variant you go by). I feel like Franklin's pressure on me was because he probably had some info and wanted to see if it lined up.

@Noodle and @leo, if D2DC is currently unlynchable, are you going to try to burn the witch you just drowned, or can we look for the second mafia for a day?

Ugh, I'm not sure. I hate saying this but DC *MIGHT* be right about him being Town. I can see Argyle not as a Bus Driver but someone who has a one-shot ability to dodge a lynch. At this point in the game, I'm not sure what we should do: try to lynch DC again or try another person. I do not volunteer, BTW and FYI.

It is POSSIBLE that a doc or something like that got me on the first night. It is also VERY POSSIBLE that DC is mafia with a one time lynch dodge ability. I'm not sure what to make of DC. I think he's scummy but things aren't adding up.

Gonna make a second post.
 
The fact that Leo wasn't targeted tells me, mafia are afraid of a doc out there. She mentioned a doc targeting her alters her results. So, either she's lying about the whole thing or mafia know that's what happened (because Argyle isn't a terrorist..). If there's a doc out there, and an outed cop, it's safe to assume the doc will protect her at night, making her a dangerous choice for an NK.

Also, it doesn't hurt the matter that Leo is ready to lynch me. At this point, mafia need some miss votes. So, they are happy to keep her around and voting for me.

Mafia have made a lovely bed for themselves. Pit me and you against each other, Franklin and I are argue over you like two high school girls crushing on the same hot Goth boi, and Mafia off Frankie most likely to make it look like I did it. And, oh boy, does it get even worse. . .


Yea, I would assume if there was a bus driver it would be me. However, nothing like that was mentioned to me. It does make me wonder if my "investigation" has some hidden mechanic though..

Again,
N1 - D2DC (pie)
N2 - coju (Pac-Man music)
N3 - Pyro (cookie, pizza etc)

@Leopold Stotch does any of that make sense combined with your results getting altered? Also, did you test the doc mechanic last night? I gotta assume any doc would have protected you, which means altered results, right?

My results:

N1-- @D2DC , Terrorist
N2-- @coju, Town
N3-- @thefranklin , No Result because I was role blocked (I was literally told I was role blocked).

This def does not look good on me. So I am saying this as sincerely as possible, but **** you, Mafia.
 
I'm the best town when I'm town, and best town when I'm scum, but right now I'm not being the best town so therefore I'm....scum?
Precisely! Couldn't have worded it better myself! :LOL:

RL could of course be the cause, but the way these first few days have played out it feels more like.. "meh, no need to try, town is waay off course.". Whereas if you were town, you'd be more worried about the direction things are going.
 
@D2DC so did your investigation say all those things? All the Chicago foods and such?
Yea, especially on Pyro there were clear windy city references. But, I don't know of any movie character with ties to Chicago.. I think Gorny has a personal tie to the area and just enjoys feeding me random bits of info to cause more confusion.
 
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