Fallout 4 Mafia Game Thread

What I've realized from this game is that Noodle has it figured out.

Say almost nothing, but when you do say or do something, be so outrageously indifferent to the reaction of other people that people are taken aback by it sufficiently to just ignore you.

Or say nothing period like Franklin/Noammr, or nothing of substance like Wanjai and there's nothing to talk about.

However, actually put what you know out there, and holy crap are you going to be persecuted for it.

Why? Because mafia players are really not thinking most of the time. They just look for people to jump on and there's nothing sexy about jumping on someone quiet.

You want me to roleclaim? Fine. Both of you roleclaim and I'll drop my pants also.

While we're at it, why don't we just invite the mafia to a ****ing pajama party where we're all sleeping?

Bolded part above, now you feel exactly how I felt last day phase. This is probably one of my most active mafia games and let me tell you, its been extremely frustrating.

Did it ever occur to you that I wouldn't want to out myself as a town power role? Not a chance? Anyone home in there? You ****ing know I'm a town power role at this point if you have a brain in your head.

Nope, mafia is more about getting people to cave in than it is about actually gaining information. Noodle would tell you to go copulate with yourself if he was in my place. But, he's probably the godfather and has been playing like he's immortal without a peep. Smarter than me, that's for damned sure.

How do I know that CG was mafia after night two, and that franklin is lying his ass off about being the vigilante?


You are (John) Hancock. You are town.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/John_Hancock

You don’t like the little people being picked on..

You don’t put up with that shit.

You can target one player per night to see of they are a faction opposed to the town, after that night you can One Shot Vig them.

Win condition: You win when all of the Commonwealth Mafia have been either lynched or otherwise killed..

Night 1: Investigated Noodle - no result
Night 2: Investigated CG - scum
Night 3: Investigated Pyrotechnician - you are unable to perform your investigation

If there's no town doctor, I'm dead.

Interesting claim, I'm particularly interested in why you were unable to perform your investigation last night, from other claims so far it seems as though results have just been mismatched instead of blocked.

Another vig? I love this game! And I love my vote where it is.

I want to shoot Noodle, but I like my protections. And I don't like random chance. Oh, and Pyro is neutral. Dont know the wincon, but that is what it is. I have a jack of all trades kinda thing going on :)

Interesting, since I'm not, when did you use your so called "jack of all trades" investigation on me?

Good luck town.

God knows you certainly don't deserve it.

Just like Pyro I was watching to see who associated with CG. Then work got really busy and I was unable to play sufficiently and just flung myself in at the end. Not even having updated thread when I posted my vote. I was going to kill him that night anyways.

You yourself did the same damned thing yesterday D2DC.

This is why one NEVER, EVER roleclaims. Ankeli and noodle know this. Because hacks will come along behind you and if you did a proper job of sitting back to see which way the cookies were falling when you KNOW something, if anyone ever knows you did that - you're dead. I will never roleclaim again. Even on the threat of lynch.

The only pro with my strategy, buddy, is that it's long term. If I get tagged as mafia in one game, but play the exact same way the next game when I'm pro-town, people will never know what to expect of me. I've relied on this for years. And, yes, I enjoy muddying the waters a bit, just for fun. It can be frustrating when I actually have investigation results and stuff like that which people don't pay attention to, but I've made my choice.

Honestly, I despise Noodles gameplay. You may as well just roll a dice, but does it work to keep himself alive? You bet your ass, because there is nothing ever to go on. If he is scum the only time he gets lynched is when we have nothing else but lurkers to pick from so by default he usually gets to coast all of the game, and if he is town, he has very little contribution, so really, his gameplay style only really benefits himself if hes town, or the scum team if he is scum.

I started the day playing it exactly as I should. I fingered him without singling him out (I truly thought pyro was scummy at that point).

Unfortunately, time got away from me because of work. I wanted to see who tried to deflect the most. And it WAS pyro. I just didn't get back in time to make any play and I just shrugged it off because it worked out.

Next game, trust me. I will participate just enough to not get lynched as there is no reasoning with people like you.

You are honestly voting for me over franklin and his ridiculous claim because you think you are **** ****ing tracy?

See you all tomorrow. I'm tired.

I'm glad you think so highly of me. I'm waiting to see what actually happens to noodle.

Hmmmm. The info from my N2 action contradicts Zarni's story.

I'm wondering whether my role works the way it said it would work, or maybe there's a mis-information role or game mechanic? SS did mention bastard modding.

With three cop flavors and a tracker I'd say our target probably investigation immune and possibly invisible.

Another thing bothering me is Wanjai's claim. I'd like to get her character name. I honestly question the likelihood of a VT in this game.

Was hoping for more info before but I guess we're getting closer to the end of the day.
My role is a tracker/lookout hybrid where I choose a target and get a list including anyone that either targeted my target or was targeted by my target.

My targets were:
N1:pyro (failed)
N2:Zarni
N3:D2DC
Both successful actions came back with one name: Wanjai which doesn't line up with the info revealed.

As it currently stands I'd like to know if franklin's shot was a real move and whether we get to see the results before the day's end.
I'm heading home fore the evening so I should be around to discuss voting later on.

Tracker/lookout hybrid? So tracker/watcher? Do you get anything that distinguishes whether the person was targeting someone or was targeted by someone?
 
And does it say that you would get EITHER players your target visited OR players visit your target?

Or, does it imply you would get both results?

Also, who knows if the weather scrambled your results as well.. :confused:
 
I would be extremely pleased with voting for Zarniwoop right now.

Yea, everyone (apart from Noodle) seems to be working together. Zarni is hostile, and story not checking out.
 
Tracker/lookout hybrid? So tracker/watcher? Do you get anything that distinguishes whether the person was targeting someone or was targeted by someone?

And does it say that you would get EITHER players your target visited OR players visit your target?

Or, does it imply you would get both results?

Also, who knows if the weather scrambled your results as well.. :confused:

No, it says specifically that I will get both results.
I was also told I will get no info about the nature of the visits that I view.

I hope Noamrr comes back with a response to my question, I believe I've pieced together the puzzle if Noammr's claim is truthful.

I would be extremely pleased with voting for Zarniwoop right now.

Intersting. I'm listening.
 
No, it says specifically that I will get both results.
I was also told I will get no info about the nature of the visits that I view.

So, I guess you didn't get any info on nature of visits?

Seems like your invest is broken, or your role PM was not 100% true. Only way that your results of Wanjai were for BOTH scenarios:

  • Wanjai didn't visit either of us. At least that would fit her VT claim.
  • BOTH Zarni and I are lying about our claims, and visited Wanjai on each of the nights in question.
That sounds pretty unlikely, especially since I KNOW I'm not lying.
 
Working Theory:

- Wanjai lied about being vanilla townie
- She then proceeded to visit someone on N2 and N3 (although the people she visited didn't die, so I guess that is a plus?)
- Zarniwoop did not visit anyone N2 and is lying
- N2 result (if Noamrr is truthful) is likely solid
- N3 result (if Noamrr is truthful) may be mixed up results

I have a few posts that would work hand and hand to kind of connect the pieces, but its speculation.
 
I'm so tired. I tried to read but I just have to get some sleep. I'm on page 32 halfway by the way.

I'm actually a town doctor. I saved D2DC last night. The reason I didn't come out and said it earlier because I wanted to hear what Zarni would claim. I have been suspicious of him since he was kinda claimed the doctor from the way he said CG isn't a doctor. Anyway he didnt either admit or refuse even after everyone pressured him and later claimed vigi. I believe he is one of the scum.

My actions were
N1 CG
N2 Zarni
N3 D2DC

By the way, it looks like I'm big on saving scums. Lol

I'm just gonna put my vote here as I strongly feel that Zarni is mafia. My vote is here to stay today.

VOTE : Zarniwoop
 
So, I guess you didn't get any info on nature of visits?

Seems like your invest is broken, or your role PM was not 100% true. Only way that your results of Wanjai were for BOTH scenarios:

  • Wanjai didn't visit either of us. At least that would fit her VT claim.
  • BOTH Zarni and I are lying about our claims, and visited Wanjai on each of the nights in question.
That sounds pretty unlikely, especially since I KNOW I'm not lying.

Yeah. Hence my speculation on my role earlier this day, as well as asking Wanjai to gieb info.
As this day progressed my results seemed less and less likely.

Working Theory:

- Wanjai lied about being vanilla townie
- She then proceeded to visit someone on N2 and N3 (although the people she visited didn't die, so I guess that is a plus?)
- Zarniwoop did not visit anyone N2 and is lying
- N2 result (if Noamrr is truthful) is likely solid
- N3 result (if Noamrr is truthful) may be mixed up results

I have a few posts that would work hand and hand to kind of connect the pieces, but its speculation.

I guess that could work...
Are we expecting to hear from Wanjai before the day's end?
 
Townies, so far we have done pretty well. We haven't lost one town member yet. :D

Hope we lynch the right one today too.

Off to bed now. Goodnight guys.
 
At first I wasn't sure about Zarni. But now I think he is town from how he was worried about players would get mod killed.

This is from before N2, would explain why she visited Zarniwoop

Zemaj was found beaten to death in an alley. What was left of him was nearly unrecognizable. He was wearing jeans, a t-shirt and and padded vest.

A bloody baseball bat with nails driven into it was found closeby. There were no fingerprints on the bat.

Zemaj has died, he was Marty Mcfly (bonus character outta time) he was neutral.

It is now day time (day 3), and you may post freely, with 8 alive it will take 5 votes to lynch.

The day will end on November 18th, 2017 at 8:30 PM CST, approx. 48 hours from now

After N2 we got the above story, this indicates a baseball bat with nails caused the death.

I'm sorry to hear about that. Glad that she lived though.



Thanks for replying this. I definitely would like to hear your theory.



Fake claiming? Your bodyguard role is weird. When I played Town of Salem. The bodyguard role is for protecting other people, not themselves. You choose to target one player, and if that player gets attacked, the BG dies. I don't know if I really believe your role claim.

Could someone please tell me how many roles are usually given to town with 10 players? What are the usual roles?

Do you guys ever do role call here? If so, when do you guys do it?

Just so you know if I were really a mafia, I could have just asked my mafia partner.

Would you please kindly at least answer my question?I'm really curious.

Multiple questions about mass claiming from wanjai.

Final End of Day 3 Vote Count:

Caluin Graye: 6 (D2DC, Wanjai, Noammr, TheFranklin, Noodle, Zarniwoop)

I'm the doctor you fools, Caluin Graye cried as he was dragged off to the gallows, he looked enough like the doctor in his bulky post war surgical scrubs. He seemed to be hiding something though, as his scrubs were a bit too bulky.

Underneath his scrubs he war an old looking bloodied baseball uniform, and an old baseball cap. When inspected, his "shop" turned up more clues, baseball cards, each with a picture of every player, one of them already crossed out with a diagonal red line through it.

He had several baseball bats, not bats but "swatters" as he called them, some plain and simple, just like a normal baseball bat. Others had nails sticking out everywhere, a few had round sawblades attached at the top. Some had a chain wrapped around. A few others had barbed wire wound around them. He also had several modified baseballs, baseball grenades he called them.

He also had chems, lots of chems, not the useful ones but the illegal ones...

...and a few bags of potato chips.

Caluin Graye has been lynched, he was Moe Cronin, Commonwealth Mafian scum team.

It is now night, no posting. If you have night actions, they are due via PM by the end of the night which will be tomorrow, Sunday November 19th at 8:30 PM CST.

Timer will be up shortly.

Story from CGs lynch, this would essentially confirm that CG did the night kill as the baseball bat with nails has shown itself again. That would mean that Zarni did not perform the night kill that night, might explain why there were no other results N2.

Maybe the reason that @Zarniwoop said that CG isn't a doctor because Zarni is a doctor himself?

@Zarniwoop I was thinking the same thing. Are you a doctor? Is that why you were so sure that CG wasn't a doctor.

Also, there was no NK last night. Since two people claimed that they could do something last night. It's obvious that mafia would try to NK but got prevented. I'm just wondering what happened. Did scum for roleblocked but it didn't sound like it from SS story. I still believe that it was from the save from the doctor. That's why if @Zarniwoop is really a doctor, he can actually give us very important information too. Any info to give us at all, Zarni?

By the way, D2DC, Pyro I don't have the info about this freaky friday thingy.

Where is @thefranklin though?

By the way, in town of Salem, dr role can protect himself. I'm just wondering if it works the same way here.

CG said his fake role claim as Bodyguard can protect himself. From here, I assume that dr can also choose to protect himself too. Can anyone help me here?

@Zarniwoop I somewhat think that you are a town doctor. Why don't you come out and told us whom you saved last night so I can put my vote out there. I'm getting on the plane this afternoon. It's about 24 hours with connection. I won't really be around to see what happens.

I would really appreciate any input also.
I'm VT by the way.

Multiple quotes regarding questions on how doctors function, blocking of kills, and pursuing Zarni "thinking" he was town doctor from the previous days claim. Also claimed VT, which is smart for a doctor role.

Guys, my flight is about to take off. I won't be able to read here but I should be back in about 24 hours. To me scums are among Zarni or Franklin or Noodle.

Also , I don't have time to read anything here. But those three are my scum candidates.

Wanjai at this point considered Zarni scum, a complete flip from previous posts, would make sense since the only belief we had on Zarni is that he was some form of protective role, and if Wanjai really is the town doc, I myself would be pretty darn suspicious to say the least, haha.
 
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